Another Staff Abuse Report on Ineusia

Honestly Well said i was one of the friends of his that were banned for no good reason honesty i feel like rule 10 or yours is so misinterpreted.Rule 10 is and i quote "10: We Reserve the Right to Ban Anyone

If we don’t think you are a benefit to our community and are degrading our server we reserve the right to do as we please with you. This rule is only to be used on rare occurrence and is only enforced after being considered by the highest of our staff."

the Admin that banned me made rule 10 look like if "if a mod or admin wanted to ban people for no good reason then they can." Which Honestly is not cool and not good for your player base which bedazzles me your server has been here for a long time yet your admins show no expirence in handling a situation Let me tell you my story about me joining this server so i joined the server so i joined the server after one of my friends invited me to it which i joined because he was my friend but he didnt go on because he was waiting for the reset so i did what i wanted to do which was look through the amazing ruins you guys have! as i scavenged the ruins i got some gear and it was fun! which i dont see a lot in servers i have seen today as i have seen almost any type of server from anancy to minigames. The thing that made me like it was the guns so i left and came on the next day to go see what i could do the reset wasnt coming for another month so i had more spare time so i brought my gf online to come scavenge ruins so we made a plan to go to japan that day and we made it now earlier i was asking why we couldnt t spawn anywere well the simple answer was well it becuase we want it to be realistic so i said like the first earth server that was popular i cant say the name. and they said yeah but don't advertise and i said how but ok and proceeded my day i thought it was strange after seeing many servers even the best don't get mad over you saying the name of a server i continued my day scavenging through ruins of towns were sidged and ended my day without a thought. i join on again and i invited some of my friends now my friends and i were looking arround and met up we talked and joined one of my friends towns we left and as i was joining my friend headshotted someone out of self defence which a town proceeded to get mad and one of our players came and proceeded to kill us and continued to trash talk now i am not wining i am simply adding context so my friend who was good at 1.9 pvp destoryed him in iron while he was in diamond now this is only possilbe if you are good at traps or pvp so when he killed him be procceeded to break rule 7 which was no crying if you were killed now your admin was in vanish the entire time and didnt say one thing didnt warn him and then they had a 1v1 we brought a even better pvper on he killed them and then said i dont like this pvp we can 1v1 on (icantevensaythenametobeaccuate) he didnt say the ip he said the name of the server so then admin proceeded not to mute the player but to IP ban the player so in traditional matters half of my friends that were on were acting staff or ex staff memebers so we said why did u ban him ur rules didnt say that i unstand _pesto was roasting ur server but i and one other friend did not we did not act in a way that didnt benift the community we did not harm the community in any way exept for 1 friends foxy proceed to say the ip of a server and got banned which is still extremely strict for a small offence he didnt hack he said the ip of the server now according to your admins logic she should have banned the player that broke rule 7 as well but she didnt she had a bias. now i do not know her relation to the people of the town but she banned foxy after that and in our fashion we said f and the admin decided to make this the exuse under RARE occerence to use rule 10 and ban us why idk all i said was f. i thought this server was good it still is i do not judge a server but just one staff member i wanted to apply for staff but now my chances are ruined becuase i was banned which doesnt make me look good at all i even said there was a problem with staff apps and she helped me yes but the way she went thought a ban situation was not on par with how a admin should be and yes i agree with pesto with some parts of his statement but still these rules need to be enforced on the entire server rather than just certain newcomers.

How i would fix this:
now as a guy who helps servers when he can i will give you some tips on how i would go on fixing this now this server i assume this server has been here for 7 years so i would add offences 3 offences and you are banned and make set punishments for breaking rules rather then the mod or admin decide for them selves becuase in my opinion rule 10 is very dangrous rule 10 makes leway for admins to ban people under their own terms say that admin plays on another server and they get killed by a player and that admin holds that grudge then the same player who the admin has a grudge on joins doing nothing to provoke or doesnt even know the admin has staff that staff sees them and bans them after a while and then they comeup with an exuse and you the owner would belive then i assume becuase they are admin they have been by your side for years i pressume now your server is old i get it but change is a good thing revising the rules and checking everthing so often is good for your server it is not bending the rules it is improving them. next i would fix and better train staff for situations like that and i would look at the forums now i am not telling you how to run your server i am simply suggesting fixes on the server. Now that i have said all of this i will not get buillied into having to fear your admins as you said yourself in the rules "The staff are here to help the community, our helpers and moderators are normal players and may not be able to assist you instantly when asked. Please be patient when asking for help and you will be assisted as soon as a staff member can help you. Any issues with staff can be reported on the forums. You should never argue with staff members in global chat." now knowing staff an argument could be made that i was argueing with staff i was not i was simply asking why i didnt say anything rude and if i did i am sorry but the way that admin treated that player made it clear players are in fear of getting banned why because staff are so strict with the rules if you break just the slightest rule you will be ip banned. now if you want to defend your self in private in a vc or in a chat i will do so i will go as far as needed if you want to talk in voice chat and explain yourself then you can if you the owner want to talk with me you can but i will not stand for any admin abuse on anyserver my discord is in my ban appeal

Have a great day all

seems like mod abuse to me

Quoted text (in quotes) is sic, and extracted from all of the posts above.

First off, let's address the elephant in the room:
"...hopefully get to the moderators and staff team that actually care about this server"
Something something... None of us would be staff if we did not actually care about the server.

"No where in the rules does it state that mentioning names is bannable yet it's still considered as advertising. "
Mentioning a server during an actually relevant conversation is one thing, doing what is explained above by Ineusia is another.

"There's a lot of mod abuse claims yet I see no change."
Objectively, you are here for far too little time to see it. Staff abuse reports, when valid, result in proper action being taken by the staff team. Your seemingly absolute certainty in this sentence only shows that you have not even taken the time to thoroughly read them. Also, understand that it is not in players' responsibility or discretion to deal with them, but staff's.

"However, you turn a blind eye to some players when they threaten to grief our town by placing TNT and making threats. They terrorize and target us by killing us when we join and when we fight back they complain and we get banned."
If the threats did not break any of the other rules - most notably, harassment/toxicity - there is no reason to take action against it. Your enemies did not get banned because they did not break any rules. And never mind the fact that this kind of destruction/killing is included in Nations gameplay. It is not 'turning a blind eye,' but an absence of the need to enforce rules in that situation.

To me personally, it is apparent by this point that your ego, _Pesto, is louder than the validity of your words. Your choice of masking frustration due to a ban as a Staff Abuse report (with little and invalid evidence) is a bold move, but not the correct course of action in this situation (and insulting the rule enforcer was not either).

"the Admin that banned me made rule 10 look like if "if a mod or admin wanted to ban people for no good reason then they can."", "the admin decided to make this the exuse under RARE occerence to use rule 10"
Rule 10 is not there to excuse random bans, it's not a "percentage-chance" rule that strikes you out of nowhere. The rule's description is to be taken in the most literal sense possible. The highest staff is meant to use it after sound judgement. But you are given the ability to appeal the ban, too.

"should have banned the player that broke rule 7 as well but she didnt she had a bias.", "...procceeded to break rule 7 which was no crying if you were killed now your admin was in vanish the entire time and didnt say one thing didnt warn him..."
Rule 7 does not in any context, by itself, ever warrant a ban. If it treads on other rules being broken along with it, then rule breakers are punished accordingly. In all honesty, it is a lesser rule because of this.

"foxy proceed to say the ip of a server and got banned which is still extremely strict for a small offence he didnt hack he said the ip of the server", "if you break just the slightest rule you will be ip banned."
Advertising, either directly or indirectly, is not a "small offence", period. This is a major flaw in the argument. Advertising always has and always will be met with an IP ban.

"so i would add offences 3 offences and you are banned and make set punishments for breaking rules rather then the mod or admin decide for them selves becuase in my opinion rule 10 is very dangrous rule 10 makes leway for admins to ban people under their own terms say that admin plays on another server and they get killed by a player and that admin holds that grudge then the same player who the admin has a grudge on joins doing nothing to provoke or doesnt even know the admin has staff that staff sees them and bans them after a while and then they comeup with an exuse and you the owner would belive then i assume becuase they are admin they have been by your side for years..."
A few points are to be made here. One; staff already follows a similar system of punishments to the you mentioned. Two; helpers, moderators, and admins are the rule enforcers - common sense. We administer punishments based on the action. The duration of the ban is predetermined and consistent. Three; Rule 10 is not used when an Admin has 'grudges', it is not used to excuse bias in any way. Just like every other rule, Rule 10 is no exception. Reasoning lies behind it, and even more for Rule 10 itself, cases of which are handled by high staff who are in that position for a reason. Four; the owner of all people reserves the full rights to action against any staff member, when the latter is at fault. Meaning that action is taken if they deem it necessary. Alongside this point, I want to underline that the owner is also accused of something they did not do. Of potential bias they have not showed, and of which you present no evidence of otherwise. Empty accusations are invalid, and in general come off as rude and offensive.

All in all, though, I will have to agree that Epicminemaster7 has showed comparatively more politeness.

(Footnote: "I can send logs but it's unlikely you'd even look at them." The reason you would show logs is to perhaps provide important context in the post in order to reinforce your points. It is your choice anyway. Staff have their own logs of you.)